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Practice Makes Perfect? Think again. - Ep #115

It is often said that practice is the key to attaining high levels of skills in any discipline. And while true, if spend all your time practicing without ever actually putting the skill into real situations— you won’t grow. This is particularly important when it comes to your voice. 

So today, I’m sharing with you exactly how to get results from practicing your speaking skills. 

Inside this episode you’ll learn:

  • Why practicing on your own isn’t going to cut it
  • The big challenge that happens when you’re practicing in a vacuum
  • What are the benefits of starting to speaking now even before you’re ready
  • How does one get better
  • Building the resiliency in your speaking ‘muscle’ and trusting your own voice


Episode Highlights

Practice alone does not make perfect

It is often said that practice is the key to attaining high levels of skills in any discipline. We hear people say that the secret is you just need to practice and then here's what happens next...but if we're spending all this time practicing, what does it mean? 

Typically it means us thinking through it in our heads, writing out and fixing our ideas, maybe turning on and practicing with our video camera which doesn't include us actually getting out there and speaking on stages because we still feel like we need to practice. 

I’m a fan of practice and rehearsing, and true they ARE needed to get better at speaking BUT what happens is you're practicing in a vacuum and this is the really big challenge with this. You’re off stage and you’ll stay STUCK because you’re trying it right and I bet you’re still actively learning new tips and tricks to try so you’ve got to go back on your google doc outline or script and start working it again, writing it out again...and there you stay. 


Get better as you go

If you have aspirations and you want to get better at speaking or become the person of influence that you dream about, the secret for you to achieve that is you have to train for that moment. You had to start somewhere—and that couldn't mean you staying on the sidelines.

Yes, there are structures in which how we talk and say things better (that's what we jam out all the time inside my program Speak Up to Level Up) but at some point practicing on your own isn't going to cut it.  Your practice or lack thereof isn't going to get you where you want to go. So what does it mean for you? 

You got to start speaking NOW! Just say yes to the podcast opportunity... show up to Facebook Live even when no one else does and you’re speaking to an empty ‘room’... even if you feel awkward and uncomfortable because if you want to get to the level that you dream about, the only way to do so is to get in the freaking game!


Start before you’re ready

When you start speaking NOW, you start building resiliency in trusting your voice. It's not going to be perfect anyways so you may as well just get used to the sound of your own voice, to the sound of imperfection because your audience doesn't want this perfectly curated version of youthey want the real you plus it gives you the permission to:

  1. Screw up when the stakes are small
  2. Have a record of your improvement
  3. Make adjustments / be a literal work in progress // draft mode


How does one get better?

Whenever someone asks me, “Heather, how did you get better?”  It's because I showed up on real stages. That was my practice and that's the best thing that I learned in the last 20 years of speaking to groups. I was speaking in some capacity every single day. 


Was I overly prepared for every single one of them? 

Sure as heck I practiced and prepared. I always had a plan but sometimes you just have to show up and you just gotta do it.

Coming back to all of it, practice is still good but it needs to be intentional rather than this keeping you stuck. Don't just practice by yourself. Your practice can be you showing up. In fact you can make it actionable by:

  • Picking the platform that's best for you that you can get on consistently.

Think of what is your stage right now, where your audience is and start showing up consistently. Treat your speaking your voice on a real stage as a muscle and the only way that you can strengthen that muscle is to work it out consistently.

That can be as simple as you showing up on Instagram stories or Facebook every single day or three days a week. What’s important is you start showing up and building the resiliency muscle to say, I'm the kind of person that does lives and shows up even when you're not feeling great or even when you don't feel like it. 


  • Challenging yourself to get visible and start making it happen today.

Ask yourself, what is it going to take for you to finally say this is your time and you're done making excuses trying to get everything perfect?

Let’s start today—get off the sidelines and get in the game. That is how you grow up. You can go on your stories, introduce yourself, share something insightful for your audience that will add something to their day. Maybe encourage them  that if they too have been waiting in this realm of perfection that maybe it's all about not being perfect and just getting in progress. Take that, run with it and share however that resonates with your audience.  Know that your message is more important than you getting it right.


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Well, Hey friends, welcome back to another episode of the Heather Sager show. You're getting me in my sexy sultry, I lost my voice over the weekend and I delayed recording this episode long enough. So you know what, we're going to do it. We're going to do it today. If you're a new listener to the show, this is not what I normally sound like, but I dunno, maybe it's cool. Whatever. We're still going to have an awesome conversation today because we got something we need to address, and it's this silly myth that practice makes perfect.

Now I've been guest teaching in a lot of masterminds. I do bonuses inside people's courses. I teach on other people's stages, guests on podcasts. I think we're up to 40 something guest appearances, just guest teaching this year alone and it's a huge way of how I attract clients into my business. That's why I have been able to have such crazy high conversion rates on my launches, on my evergreen funnel. I don't tell you all these things to brag, but for me, I have been really focused on how do I attract people who, I mean, people who really want to grow their brands in a sustainable way and serve and make an impact and make some money along the way. And I don't know, I don't love the idea of blasting Facebook ads to the world and just going for the mass market strategy. For me, I'm thinking micro. Let's keep it small, build a really warm, engaged audience. Make sure, I like doing this, which I do by the way, love up on my people and then scale and grow. I think so often we're, I'm going off on a tangent here, but we're so often drawn to this, oh, we have to be big out of the gate and that's just not my cup of tea. I do have big, big dreams to speak on some incredible stages.

 I'll tell you a little secret dream that you may have been thinking about lately. So a few weeks ago, some mentors that I follow on. In fact, my mastermind leader, I'm in Brendon Burchard's marketing mastermind right now. And I'm actually missing our monthly call right now to record this podcast because it's got to get done. But I noticed, so Brendan hosted a, his peer mastermind with people like Mel Robbins and Anthony Trucks and Jenna Kutcher. And, oh my gosh, there were so many people there, Dean Graziosi, Mel Abraham, Lewis Howes. There was all these people there and they were all posting on social. And if you follow these people, you've probably noticed this has happened maybe a month or so ago. 

And I remember thinking I want to sit at that table. I know we aren't supposed to say these things out loud. It kind of sounds silly to say that, but I have a desire to be able to not just hang at that table, but be able to contribute at that table to be able to jam out and talk business and talk life and talk just shooting the shit with, with people at that level. That to me is something that I desire to do. I don't go into the whole deep rooted why. It doesn't really matter, but that's a desire that I have. And what's funny is I mentioned it to a friend the other day and she's like, oh my God, me too. And I just thought maybe, maybe you may have thought that too. Maybe it's not that specific table, but you, you lust after a table, maybe it's even at your dream board.

I share this with you because what I hear so often from people is they see that picture. They want to get there. That's why we're showing up and doing all the work. And then we think, oh man, we have to go to this massive impact. For me, it's the think big act, small, it's the title of a book. It's a very like generic phrase, but I adopt that into my world and in my business. Think big, act small. And for me, that means showing up in service and building a, the term micro audience seems very, very weird. But building a smaller engaged audience that I can really listen to, talk with and make an impact with before thinking about going really big. So I don't know if that resonates with you, but that's something that I've been thinking about a lot lately.

But where that comes into the conversation is when I'm having these conversations with clients or guests speaking to these groups, one of the big things we talk about is when you want to be more impactful with your voice, when you want your messaging to really resonate and serve the person that you, you're creating this all for. We think about that a big reality that happens is this, duh, if you want to get better at speaking, you got to speak like you, you gotta practice it. I use the analogy all the time that you can, you can study riding a bike. You can watch YouTube videos around riding a bike by the end of the day, until you get on the damn bike, you don't know if you could ride it. You don't really understand what balance is on a bike.

So I share all of this with you because of this, people hear this like, oh my gosh, the secret is I just need to practice, like I need to just, I just need to start practicing and then here's what happens. We then go to our Google docs or our whiteboard, or pull out the post-it notes in all the beautiful colors and we start brain dumping our ideas and we're like, oh, okay, The secret is I have to practice. So we write scripts or we outline notes or we start thinking, oh, I got to create, I'll say it, the perfect talk which is what I teach how to create a really amazing signature talk that you can use over and over again in a lot of different ways so that you're always talking about the right things in your business to attract the right kind of people to come back to drive desire for your offers.

But when we think about this if we're spending all this time practicing, what does practice mean? It typically means us thinking through it in our heads. Typically it means us writing out our ideas, fixing our ideas, maybe turning on our camera and practicing with our video camera and what it typically doesn't include is us actually getting out there and speaking on stages because we still feel like we need to practice. And I am a huge fan of practice, but this is the really big challenge with this. When you're practicing by yourself, when you're talking through things in your head, or even out loud in your shower, all these things are great. I do a lot of talking to my car. I've talked about this all the time. I turn on the audio recorder and I just talk out loud. 

These things are awesome, but what happens is you're practicing in a vacuum. You're not onstage and what happens is you're trying to perfect it and to get it right and to sound a certain way, and then you imagine being on an actual stage and you're like, ah, it's not ready yet. I have to get it. It has to be better. I have to, something's not right here so then we go searching for a different strategy. How do we be more persuasive? How do we structure our stuff better? How do we, how do we find the right story? How do we, how do we have a better tiny offer on the backend or whatever? We start then looking online for different ways to quote unquote say it better. And I will tell you, obviously, this is what I teach. There are structures that you should put into place to say things better, but at some point, at some point practicing on your own isn't going to cut it.

Let me just give you a another little example here, and then we're going to lead into what I recommend that you do do. So when I was a kid, I played soccer. So y'all know if you listened to the show, I've talked about this before. I was born with a rare genetic condition which is called osteogenesis imperfecta and it means that my bones are really brittle and it's a, hedetar-, hereditary. That was hard to say, hereditary condition which means you pass it down 50-50 shot that you pass it down to your kids. A spoiler. Yes, my kids have it. My mom had osteogenesis imperfecta. She's the mom of six kids, passed it down to three of us. And essentially it just means I broke bones far easier than other kids. I had casts I think every day when I was in grade school, not every day, every year I was in grade school. It was just a normal part of life. As an adult now, I know that I'm an anomaly where when I see like a new physician or like, I went in to see my chiropractor, they all, like, they're like, whoa. They've never met a person with my condition. It's such a rare thing that they learn about it in medical school, but they, most physicians or doctors or health professionals do not come across somebody who has what I have in their entire career. So that's how rare it is.

But coming back to you when I was a kid, I, we didn't really do a lot of sports in my house because my parents were not sporty people, but my neighbors next door, identical twins, they played soccer and their dad was the coach. And I remember when I was like eight and they were getting ready to go to soccer practice, I'm curious. So they took me along with them and I watched a soccer practice just to hang out and I remember being obsessed like, oh, I want to play soccer. So I remember begging my parents and they let me play and I ended up playing soccer, but can you imagine for a moment, let's pretend that I, as a kid, I was like, oh, I want to be a soccer player. And let's pretend that I watched the, like an Olympic game and I was like, oh my gosh, I want to be the next Mia Hamm or I want to David Beckham this crap up here, like, I want to be pro level. 

And then, so my kids go or my, my parents go and buy me all the gear and then I watch soccer. I just go to practice and I watch other people with this dream of being a pro player. What's the likelihood of me actually being a pro player, like none. None, right? Like, it's this idea of when you sit on the sidelines, you can't actually get better, but here's the thing. What would happen if eight year old, Heather? I was like, oh, I want to be a pro soccer player. So I, well, let's say they put a nine-year-old into that pro level game. That would not work. I would get trampled and probably break down bones and it would be terrible. And like, unless I'm like the Doogie Howser of soccer, there's no way I would be able to perform. So my dream would probably get fizzled out pretty quickly because I'd be like, oh, I suck at this. This is terrible. It doesn't work. Okay. So when it comes to soccer, that's why you start out playing soccer with other kids your age on a tiny little field trying to figure out how to not get distracted by the dandelions to make dandelions crowns. That was a big problem we had with eight year olds on our team. Anyways, I hope you're following with this.

The whole point is if you want to have a dream of being a pro level soccer player and get really good at playing soccer, you have to start out and practice on the fields with people who are similar in skill set. You learn the game and you grow and you get better. And maybe when you're 10, 11 years old, you're playing club and then maybe you get selected for premier level, or like me, you then get into the ODP team, which is the Olympic development training program. It was like a little side shoot thingy. I tried out for that for a couple of years and then when I was 14, I was on a Washington state soccer team that traveled to Holland to play in the Coca-Cola Haarlem cup. That was a really big freaking deal. Now for me, I really didn't have aspirations to play in the Olympics and do anything bigger and quite frankly with my bone condition, it really wasn't a reality. But the point that I'm making here is I had a dream to play soccer at a higher level and I had to start somewhere. That starting couldn't mean staying on the sidelines.

So let's bring it back to you and the problem that I'm having with how most people practice in their business and in the, the lens of practicing, getting better at speaking. What's most likely happening right now is you've determined that, hey, I want to be, I want to be an industry icon. Maybe you're too afraid to say that out loud, but if you thinking that, you do you, girl. If you, you do you, girl. That so doesn't sound like me, like, oh, let's just laugh at that phrase cause I sounded ridiculous. I promised not to say that again. 

What I want you to know is if you have aspirations, right? Maybe you just want people to know your name. You want people to just be like, oh man, when I think of, insert what it is that you do, they think of you. You want to stop chasing clients like going on the hunt in Facebook groups or trying to finesse your bio on Instagram in hopes that people like you get these leads coming in instead of that. You want to, you want to have people be like, ah, I want to work with her or him. I just want people to see me as an authority. Honestly, not second guessed your pricing or the value of your services, like you probably have all these thoughts and dreams, right?

So what's happening right now most likely is you're showing up in micro doses where it's comfortable. Maybe you're showing up a little bit on stories, maybe you're showing up a little bit on lives, maybe you're consistent, maybe you're not. Maybe you've thrown your name in the hat for a podcast or two, but what's most likely happening is these are blips on the radar. These are inconsistent showings and in between, maybe you're practicing, maybe you're not. You're most likely doing a lot of thinking in your head or in Google docs or reworking copy. And at the end of the day, that practice or lack thereof, it isn't going to get you where you want to go. Dramatic pause to let that sink in. All of that, thinking about it, all of that, pseudo practice is not going to get you where you want to go, because if you want to get to the level that you dream about, the only way to do so is to get in the freaking game.

Now for me, let me tell you how I got to be so comfortable behind a microphone. It wasn't just thinking about what I was going to say. It was actually stepping up to a microphone. So back when I started very first speaking, I was 19, 20 years old. I didn't know how to get the thoughts out of my head, but I had the opportunity to step up to a mic and start speaking to groups and I took it. And was it great? Nope, but was it good enough? Yes. I started speaking to groups. Now, early on in the days, it was about the nonprofits that I worked with and volunteered for. And it was, it was talking to families and women going through breast cancer advocating for different groups. So it was, it was low risk in the, in the way that it wasn't so much pressure that I had to get it right. I just had to connect with people. I had to touch their hearts and inspire them and let them know that there were people that were there for them. But moving into business and in my career, presentations became a little bit more high stakes. The presentations had to get outcomes and the only way to get better was to actually do that.

So where I'm going with all of this for you today, friends. It's been 15 minutes in this episode. What I want you to hear from me loud and clear is in order for you to get better at speaking and to become the person of influence that you dream about, to sit at that big table one day. If it's not that table, maybe there's a different version of that table. It's the table with your clients out of their pain, you to be their mentor in a mastermind, whatever that picture looks like for you. If you want to get there and be able to sit at that table with confidence and not be up in your head second guessing what you're about to say or, or wondering if they believe in you or, or overly obsessing about what you're going to tell them the night before. The secret to that is that you have trained for that moment because an Olympic athlete, a pro soccer player, they don't just wake up one day and walk into the game. They have earned the right to be there by practicing in a smaller stadiums. So what does that mean for you? It means, say yes to the podcast opportunity. It means show up to the Facebook live even when no one else does and you're speaking to an empty room, figuratively speaking on virtual. That's probably what's going to happen if you've listened to any of my episodes around going live on Facebook or doing live streams, which side note, if you want to get started with live streaming, I'll link to a few of those episodes that will help you get started around what do you actually talk about? What kind of format should you use? How should you go about it? I have all those tools and stuff for you here in this podcast so I'll link to it in the show notes. 

But the fact is, I hope that when you start showing up, if you're a little awkward and uncomfortable at a natural and you feel a little flighty, I hope that there's no one watching so that it gives you permission just to be and do it because mess up and be sucky when your audience is small because the only way to grow is to do it. So show up fumble over your words, go off on your random side tangents, say the stupid joke that doesn't make anyone laugh, fumble over your words, accidentally drool on yourself. These are all things that I have done on camera, by the way, many of which you've probably heard me do on this show. I want you to start building resiliency in trusting your voice because the fact is most of the time when you speak, it's not going to be perfect anyways so you may as well just get used to the sound of your own voice, the sound of imperfection because it's a beautiful thing because at the end of the day, your audience doesn't want this perfectly curated version of you. They want the real you. 

Honestly, this is such a big passion of mine. It's why, when I show up to this show, when I step behind this microphone, my goal isn't to be perfect. Today, like looking at right in front of me right now. So I'm doing this and I apologize for those of you who like to watch the video of these shows, this one's not on video today' cause it's a hot mess. I haven't been feeling well. I just had to get this done so you're getting the audio experience of Heather with this. We'll call it the sexy voice, but I'm in front of me right now. I have a Google doc where I have thoughts written out, right. I thought through what I wanted to talk about, but I've barely looked down at that Google doc because I have a message on my heart today and that message is more important than me, quote unquote, getting it right. You know, there's a structure in which how we talk. I can teach you that structure. That's what we jam out all the time to inside Speak up to Level up. There's frameworks and there's structures that you can use to ensure that your message is heard but those structures don't matter if you're not actually opening your mouth and using your voice. You have to start somewhere.

 So if you've been sitting on the sidelines going, oh, I still am waiting to perfect my offer, or I'm still trying to, I'm still trying to get my welcome sequence done. So I can't go on those podcasts until I have that opt in finished, and then I need the welcome sequence and you come up with all these excuses saying that I'm prepping, prepping, prepping, waiting for that moment to like be perfect, IE, everything is prime so that when I speak on that podcast, boom, the flood gates will open. All the leads will come. Spoiler. That podcast you do will probably not get you any damn leads. Oh, oh my gosh. I said it. I'm not supposed to say those things, but truth. Most podcasts that you're going to do are going to all the sudden to have this flood of leads. It's because most podcasts don't have a ton of listener. Oh my gosh. Am I not supposed to say these things?

Here's the thing like Buzzsprout produces, oh my gosh, I'm going on a tangent here and I hope I don't scare you away from podcasts. I love podcasting. Podcasting is one of my favorite ways to get to know mentors, think about things, grow, get better. I love speaking to you in this longer version, like content. I don't do well with short form format content. I am a long format content girl. If you're hanging out with me, you know that by now, and you probably prefer listening in podcasts a little bit longer form content too because you really get to know the person. But here's the thing, so many podcasts are tiny little baby nugget podcasts. We're not talking about the millions of subscribers that the big shows talk about. We're talking about hundreds or dozens. Now I tell you this, not because they're not worth it. Podcasts are an incredible wage to get in front of new audiences, but this idea that you have built up in your head that, oh my gosh, when I get everything ready with my funnel, or I get all my messaging perfect, or I get my origin story the right way, then I'll be ready. And then when I do that, oh my gosh, just wait the floods of audience building will happen. Newsflash. That's not really a thing because the truth is when you first start speaking on podcasts, most likely the shows that you get on our tiny baby on the shows.

And hear me loud and clear when I say this, it does not mean that those are not valuable. Those shows are incredible because they have very loyal, very specific audiences. So I would much rather go on a podcast that has 50 listeners a month that are diehard listeners, that are in love with the host and the topic and they're hungry for it. I would rather do that than a show that has 10,000 downloads a month that are passive where people have followed the show because they kinda feel they need to cause it's kind of a up and cover in the industry and they want to keep an eye on it, but they like listen to the show once and have never come back. There's a difference. The quality over quantity, that matters. 

But where I'm going at all of this circling back around is if you were trying to have your head down to perfect your copy, or your funnel, or your opt-in, or your welcome sequence or your, how do I introduce myself, or my story, or, oh my gosh, what are the messaging points that I need to talk about? We can work on all those things. All those things are fine, but the fact is until you start lacing up your cleats, putting on your shin guards. We're going back to the soccer analogy until you step on that field and start kicking the damn ball, none of it matters because structuring your message, optimizing your message, getting you more comfortable, talking about your stories, I can't help you with those things when you are sitting on the sidelines. That's why when members come inside of Speak up to Level up or if a client that comes to me going, ah. 

so I had a client come to me two years ago and she had this huge dream to speak on big stages. She had this huge dream speak on big stages and she was like, yes. And then as we started working together, it became apparent that she didn't have any speaking opportunities in front of her. She just wanted to learn, okay, how do I do it so that she could confidently go out and pitch? And what happened with her, what happens with a lot of my clients is they want to study it. They want to get the perfect talk down. They want to get it all right because something feels safe with that, right? Their safety and is if I get the stories right, if I get the messaging right, then it will feel less scary to book that stage, then it'll feel less scary to pitch myself, then it'll feel less scary to, to go on video, whatever the, the thing is that we have pictured in our mind. But the truth is going on that stage, sending that pitch, doing that thing, it's all still going to be scary whether or not you have this fully baked prepared thing. However, it is a lot easier to do that when you have that so don't misconstrue what I'm saying there. 

But what I did with this client, which by the way, you can hear all about this story. It's Natalie Workman. She is an incredible, incredible speaker. She's an incredible influencer on Instagram. You can go back and listen to my interview with her on the podcast where we talk about her crippling fear of public speaking, so I'll link to that in the show cause it's actually one of the top downloaded episodes. Natalie is incredible and has built up an incredible brand with Cardone Ventures and she spoken on that 10 X lady stages. But man, just a few years ago, she was terrified, terrified of public speaking. The challenge that I gave to Natalie was look cause I started noticing this tendency to sit on the sidelines and I said, look, I want you to go out and find yourself a speaking gig within the next 30 days, whether that's speaking to family, whether that's rallying up some, some friends, whether that's getting some business people together, but you will speak in front of a group within the next 30 days. I remember she looked at me. She was like, no way. And I was like, look, we gotta like rip off the band aid or as my students know, I call it all the time. You got to lose your virginity with speaking. You got to lose your virginity with podcasting. You just got to like pop that cherry and move on. Oh, my gosh, I probably just lost a few new listeners there. Whew. Welcome to the real show people. You just got to get in the game and do it. Until you do it we can't figure out what your skill set is.

So for me, when it comes into coaching, I'm a speaking coach y'all. I'm a business coach. I'm going to help you get better but if I don't have a baseline, all you're doing is sitting there learning and absorbing a course that who knows if it's going to help you or not. You don't know if you're improving or not because you haven't had the courage to set a baseline for yourself. So whew, with this real queer voice today, this became a sermon and, oh my gosh, like what if you're new to the show what a weird way to enter in, but also what an awesome way. I hope this message is meeting you exactly at the moment you need to hear it whether it's at the time this comes out in September of 2021 or you find this episode way down the road at just the perfect time where you're like, dang it. I have been sitting on the sidelines. I have been waiting for my ducks to get in the row, just so that I feel better putting myself out but the truth is it's still going to be scary so you may as well jump into the deep end. You may as well lace up and get in the game and just get started.

Coming back to all of it, practice does not make perfect, but what I want you to think about practice makes progress. So this whole point of this episode is not to say don't practice. I want you to practice. I want you to be thoughtful in who you're talking to and what you're talking about, but let me give you the best piece of advice that I, I didn't get this piece of advice. It was my, the best thing that I learned in the last 20 years of speaking to groups whenever anybody asks me, Heather, how did you get better? It's because I showed up on real stages and that was my practice. Oh my gosh, am I not supposed to tell people that? I was speaking to groups on a daily basis for at least 10 years, whether it was me speaking on conference calls. It was me leading team meetings. It was me leading multiple day workshops, keynoting on stages, speaking at executive meetings, flying up to us to speak to other groups. I was speaking in some capacity every single day. Was I overly prepared for every single one of them? Oh, well, some of them I was. You sure, sure as heck I practiced and prepared. I always had a plan, but sometimes you just have to show up and you just got to do the thing. That's more like in a meeting structure, right, not like a keynote. Please don't do that with a keynote for the love of cheese. But for me, how I got really good getting down the thinking more impromptu or be more comfortable with tech going awry, or trying to figure out how to use my hands on a stage. All those things. Sure as hell yes I practiced but my practice was actually on the big screen, on the big stage, on the big podcast on whatever that is, right? You have to pick your path.

So what does that mean for you? What are you, what are you saying, Heather? Here's what I'm saying. If you want to get better at speaking yes, practice, but don't just practice by yourself. Your practice can be you showing up. So the very first step let's make this actionable. I want you to say, what is my stage right now that I can get on consistently? And that can be as simple as you showing up on Instagram stories every single day or three days a week, whatever, wherever you can pick or you can go, okay, I'm going to go live. I'm going to go live every week on Instagram or on Facebook or on whatever platform, maybe it's using clubhouse. You got to pick the platform that's best for you and where your audience is, but you need to pick a platform and start showing up consistently. That is your practice going to, you're still going to practice, right? You're still going to plan it, right. You're still gonna work on your structure and get everything. You're going to, you're going to develop that over time, but you need to start showing up and building the resiliency muscle to say, I'm the kind of person that does lives. I'm the kind of person who does podcast interviews. I'm the kind of person who confidently goes off on rants on podcast episodes. Hello, that's me. I'm the kind of person who shows up even when they're not feeling great, or even when they've lost their voice, even when they don't feel like it. I'm the kind of person who shows up that's who I've become and I want that for you. You got to pick your platform and you need to start showing up consistently.

Now, if part of that's getting more visible. Make it a thing that you do podcast interviews two a month, maybe more. But the point is, if you do it one time and then wait until it's convenient again, you are not building the muscle. It's like, if you did a really intense workout one day and then you were too sore or too busy to do it again for a month. There will be no benefit from that one workout. You need to treat your speaking your voice on a real stage as a muscle and the only way that you can strengthen that muscle is to work it out consistently. That's my point. Practicing in a silo does not make perfect. Practicing in the real game, practicing and playing in real games, right, and it could be micro stages, but getting out there that is how you get to that table that you think about, that you dream about, that you do desire to be. That's where you do the work. And friend you know, I'm here to help you along the way. We have an all these free episodes on the show that will help you with your messaging and your storytelling and your, and your delivery. The fact is, especially if you're a new listener around here and you're thinking about it, go back and binge, go back and binge the podcast. We cover a lot on the show and if you've been around and you've been listening to my message and you still aren't doing it for whatever reason, my challenge for you today is to ask yourself, what is it going to take for you to finally say, damn it, this is my time. I am done making excuses. I am done trying to get it perfect. I am going to start today. Let start today. Could you go live on your stories and declare you don't have to make this big proclamation that, oh my gosh. But go on your stories, introduce yourself, share something insightful for your audience that will add something to their day, maybe encourage your audience that if they too have been waiting in this realm of perfection that maybe it's all about not being perfect and just getting in progress. Take that and run with it and share however that resonates with your audience today, but get off the sidelines and get in the game. That my friend is how you grow up.

All right. I hope this episode, again, I hope this was exactly what you needed today. A little kick in the tush from Sager with her scrappy voice. I'm here for it and I'm so glad that you are too. And Hey, we're celebrating the two years of the Heather Sager show in a variety of iterations. I can't believe 115 episodes is in. We have, I mean, over 50,000 downloads and we have we're right on the brink of 50 reviews on the show. I don't ask a lot from you friend, but would you do me a solid today? Would you take three minutes and leave a thoughtful review wherever you're listening to this podcast? Give us, give us the five star rating if you feel like what I've been shared on the show, what my guests have insured on the show have really added something to your life to get you thinking and get you into action to improve the how you show up for your business if you give us the five stars, but more importantly, if you give us an actual thoughtful, written review. We all know we make decisions based around what other people are saying. If they give us a stamp of approval that's authentic and real and not like, oh, it's great, like not a fake review. Give me a real one from the heart if you found value from the show. It really would mean in the world and it would help us reach our goal to get this show in the ears of more listeners because I'm a big believer that if more of us have the courageto jump out of our comfort zones where we live, just to, just jump head first into the uncomfortable zone where our dreams are and the scary shit is but knowing that we're doing it with purpose and we're growing the skills to get better, stretch it out of our comfort zones. If more of us had the audacity to do it, I know that we would live in a, we would live in a happier world where people treat each other and more kindly where we were all committed to our own growth and, and becoming better versions of ourselves. That's really what this is about for me is us growing together, getting more comfortable about being bold and having the courage to be kind and to, to serve others. And the more people that hopefully I can inspire that message to, that's my little corner of the internet that I hope to, to impact in my, and my little micro, change the world I guessed and I help you that you're doing the same with your audience.

All right, friend. That's the end of my voice. I got to do actually another episode. So I'm going to be recorded episode 116 after this. So you get back-to-back sexy town, Heather voice. I'll see you over the next episode or one week from today. Bye, friend.


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